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Michelle Taylor's avatar

Yeah, I've always felt that something like this really spoils the hymn "You laid aside Your majesty" - it tries to make this work again by having the line "You are the only one who died for me" but that's just not actually true in any way, a lot of people have died to make our way of life possible, although people often shy away from acknowledging that.

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Neil's avatar

It's a bit sideways, but reading Judges today it struck me how ambivalent the Old Testament is about human kings. Judges 3-16 has a subtle background message of "kings are alien and cause trouble". 17-21 has a slightly less subtle background message of "not having a king also causes trouble".

When Israel asks for a king Samuel/God tell them this is a mistake (1 Samuel 8). A bit later God appoints David and gives extraordinary promises through his kingly line (2 Samuel 7).

Kings will be the cause of Israel's unity (1 Samuel 11), disastrous division (1 Kings 11-12) and through David's line the longer survival of the weak Southern kingdom.

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